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. >> the week before the storm, you were out there, president obama couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag with a fistful of money in the tank -- [ laughter ] and then right after the storm was over, you were like, this man is a leader. [ laughter ] like, doesn't that -- [ applause ] doesn't that tell you something about the game? what does that tell you about the game? >> what it tells me is that people have different skill sets at different times. that's what it tells me. >> i see. so, so, he wasn't a leader until you needed leadership. >> maybe it's until he was presented with a stark opportunity to lead. >> an opportunity. >> and of course, the governor -- >> oh, god. >> come on! >> boss legend bruce springsteen, christie, who explains he's a major fan, explains he's running with the new jersey native after nbc's hurricane sandy telethon. >> i was on stage afterwards talking to steve van zandt and max weinberg, and then all of a sudden, they were looking behind me, they moved away and stopped talking. so, i turned around. there he was. >> and there he was. >> there he was. >> and he ga

the so-called cliff. last week's survey found that 21% of americans would blame president obama and the democrats. 23% say they would blame the republicans. 52% would be annoyed with both parties equally. is it really clear at this point who would be blamed? >> i think the -- >> i'm sorry. excuse me. >> it's okay. i think members of congress bear the brunt of this, especially the house. they're going to be the odd man out. i think in the end voters, if the deal does not happen, the house will carry a lot of blame for it. >> two member numbers very imp 39.6%, 35%. the president would like 39.6%. i want both of you to take a listen to something speaker boehner said friday in response to a question about raising tax rates. take a listen. >> can you see some way that you could agree to tax rate increase and protect small businesses at the same time, maybe going with the 37% or some middle ground on -- >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position, in

next week will be critical in terms of president obama and speaker boehner finding a compromise. shep? >> shepard: democrats are still saying what they have said all along and what the president ran on this is about taxes. >> that is true and they note president obama campaigned on upper income americans paying more so they intend to make sure that happens. the house democratic leader says the only obstacle is republicans refusing to ask the top 2% to pay more. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. but in many homes across america, it's very -- very very lean time. >> after talking to reporters leader pelosi went to the white house to meet with the president over what's described as a number of issues. >> shepard: mike, the republicans have insisted from the very beginning that this goes well beyond the tax issue. >> shep, you are right, indeed speaker boehner says taxing high income people does not fix our massive fiscal mess. >> even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue t

giving stuff away. if obama remains intransigent, let him be the one to take us over the cliff, and then let the new house, which is sworn in weeks before the president, immediately introduce and pass a full across-the-board restoration of the george w. bush tax cuts. >> so i don't think that's inconsistent with anything that i just said. i agree with him 100%. what have i been saying for a week? do not cave. compromise. do not cave. if the president doesn't want to meet us halfway on massive entitlement cuts, on reforming those systems to save medicare and medicaid, social security, cutting defense, reforming the taxes, then do not meet -- if he doesn't want to meet halfway, but i've got to tell you, i am heartened with what i saw in the president's tone yesterday. i loved hearing him tell a group of americans yesterday, hey, we're going to get this thing done. i feel good about it. i love that he agreed to sit down with john boehner one on one. richard, you've done negotiations on all levels. i really liked the tone the president was sending. and by the way, i felt like charl

reliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. >> brian: president obama's move, republicans making what they consider a bold counter offer to the white house in an attempt to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff that's coming our way just four weeks away. eight working days away. wendell goler live at the white house. what's the latest? >> what we have now is an opening proposal from each side. the republicans plan would cut $2.2 trillion from the deficit, which is about $600 billion more than the president's plan. it would raise the eligibility age for medicare from 65 to 67. and lower the annual cost of living increases for social security benefits. south carolina senator lindsey graham says those two programs have to be brought under control. >> if we adjusted the age of retirement over the next 30 years like ronald reagan and tip o'neil adjusted the cpi index and means tested benefits, we could save medicare and social security from insolvency and people need the programs. the good news is, we would get our kids and grandkids out of the situation of becoming greece. >> the president's aides not surpr

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